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Old 1st March 2009, 11:23 AM
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Paul - thanks for the update. The ISO website still shows it at Stage: 40.60 (2009-01-02)

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If anyone is still interested ISO TC 176 took the vote and has sent 9004 for editing and publication as a final draft - still with the intent to get it out this year.
I'm interested. The 9004 standard is a very good document. I hope it will be after the revison. Most of my ISO 9001 clients use it internally, many of them in place of the 9001 book.

Anyone who is involved with ISO 9001, that has not read it, I can categorically recommend you get a copy. It is worth reading by the whole management team, especially if you are at a company that does not think ISO 9001 provides much benefit.

It is that good!

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If anyone is still interested ISO TC 176 took the vote and has sent 9004 for editing and publication as a final draft - still with the intent to get it out this year.
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Paul - thanks for the update. The ISO website still shows it at Stage: 40.60 (2009-01-02)

I'll contact our NSB and see what changes were made.
Yes. The vote was Friday and there is a bit of editing to do before it is sent out for comment. Only then will the ISO stage change. The important thing is it got through the member ballot.
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I'm interested. The 9004 standard is a very good document. I hope it will be after the revision. Most of my ISO 9001 clients use it internally, many of them in place of the 9001 book.

Anyone who is involved with ISO 9001, that has not read it, I can categorically recommend you get a copy. It is worth reading by the whole management team, especially if you are at a company that does not think ISO 9001 provides much benefit.

It is that good!

Thanks, Paul.
I agree, it is a good document and whilst I am sure the 'new' 9004 will be very useful, I would have liked to see the 2000 version updated and retained whilst the new one sits alongside, say 9004-2.

Still, we can still use the good info in the 2000 version alongside 9001:2008 as the changes were not substantial.
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